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Showing posts with label Tires. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Tires. Show all posts

Wednesday, 10 September 2014

Painted Wheels and Mud-Terrain Tyres

This post is not in order but lots happened on the same weekend and I'm catching up with posts.


I spent a couple of weekends and evenings over the summer cleaning up and painting an additional set of wheels to fit Mud-Terrain tyres on.

My original wheels are 18" alloys with a good set of All-Terrain tyres already fitted.  I could not find any Mud-Terrain tyres of the right size for 18" wheels so I bought a used set of 16" Land Rover wheels, also for a Discovery, to have Mud-Terrain tyres fitted to.

Not being content with just any old wheels I have taken the opportunity to paint them black.

The shape of wheels is awkward to work round but the process for painting them is fairly straight forward.


I decided to leave the tyres on to avoid damaging the rim while working but I know some people would prefer to have the tyres removed.  I deflated the tyres and masked them which has worked well.  I could angle the spray to cover all visible parts of the bead.


I painted the inside of the wheels where it can be seen from the outside through the spokes. I was careful to mask the back of the wheel where it rests against the hub.  You don't want to end up with a layer of paint sticking and the wheel not being true!

Cleaning the brake dust off took as long as keying the existing paint.  The wheels had some surface corrosion on the back and I scraped the worst of this off to help the paint stick better.  Cosmetically it cannot be seen once the wheels are on the car so I only did the worst.


I used 600 grit wet and dry paper and a drill mounted nylon sanding brush to key the surface inside and out.  Alloy is notorious for being difficult to get paint to stick to but in most cases this is not bare metal so that is not a problem.  Having said that I still put a layer of Adhesion Aid and a couple of layers of primer before the colour.


I just followed the instructions on the tins of spray paint regarding drying time with at least a day between coats of different colours.

On the side of the wheel that you can see when it is on the car I finished off with wheel lacquer to give a nice shinny and strong finish.


I found for all layers it is important to do the inside of the wheel first.  The paint drips through the spoke holes but is easily incorporated in to the paint layer if the outside is covered very shortly after the inside, before it has had a chance to cure.

I gave it a good few days to dry before attempting to remove the masking tape and I also cut round the seam.  The tyre bead was not a problem but where I had masked the wheel nut holes I had some areas to touch up.  I just used a small brush and some of the paint sprayed in to the lid.

In total for the 5 wheels I used one 400ml can of Adhesion Aid, 5 of primer, about 8 of Gloss Black paint and 2 cans of spray wheel lacquer.

Now for the tyres.



For the first time ever I used a mobile tyre fitting service.  I called round several places and the lowest cost was the mobile service I had come across on the Internet.  Ordering was easy online and staying at home to have the job done was so convenient.  I will always do it this way in the future, I don't know why I haven't tried it before.




The end result with the new tyres fitted looks very nice, especially with the finishing touch of some hub centres I found on e-bay.  The advert said they were originally for a Range Rover model.




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Edit:

We went off-roading today and finished off with a jet wash to clean the wheels and bits.  The jet wash was so powerful it stripped off the lacquer from the wheels!  My guess is that the wheel lacquer is not intended for use over paint but is supposed to be used on alloy wheels.

Anyway the black gloss paint is fine so in future I will just add an extra layer of the gloss paint without any lacquer.

Monday, 14 July 2014

Discovery 2 Tyres and Wheels

Due to having some engine problems with our Discovery 2, resulting in a complete engine replacement, I have started to be interested in off-roading again.

Our Discovery now has a raised air intake to help avoid the problems that probably caused the serious engine damage.




I have some plans to fit stronger bumpers and some under body protection but to get about off-road in typical UK muddy conditions, mud terrain tyres are the most useful addition.

Tyres

Land Rover in the last year of manufacture of the Discovery 2 fitted 18" wheels instead of the more common 16" wheels on some of their end of line models.

On those wheels they fitted 255/55R18 tyres to keep the outside diameter (29") the same as the previous 255/65R16 or 235/70R16

I found the following calculator invaluable for checking what would fit:
http://www.discovery2.co.uk/tyresize.html


SizeDiameter
255/55R1829.04"
255/65R1629.05"
235/70R1628.95"

The trouble with the 18" wheels is that none of the more recognised tyre manufacturers make any Mud Terrain tyres and the choice of All Terrain tyres is just about limited to one.  The General Grabber AT is a good specification all terrain tyre but I would like to have a choice of something a little bit more aggressive.

Wheels

As the 18" wheels have such a poor choice of tyres I am looking for 16" wheels.

I found this site useful for making sure the wheels will fit properly:
http://www.wheel-size.com/size/land-rover/discovery-2/2003/

The stud positions on a Discovery 2 are not the same as a Discovery 1 so the wheels cannot be interchanged.

I plan to do the odd Road Taxed Vehicle (RTV) trial from time to time so I also read the rules for the standard vehicle RTV trials from the ALRC.  It appears any steel wheel of the correct size can be used but only original Land Rover alloys.  I'll need to clarify that before I buy anything.

Off-Road Use

I was also interested in what the largest tyre that will fit without modifying the body or suspension.  Apparently 30.5" outside diameter will fit but I have not tested that for myself.

I am unlikely to fit oversize tyres for normal day to day use but if I was I would want the speedo adjusted so it read the right speed.  I have not been able to find anywhere that claims they can do that.  If anyone knows somewhere, please post a comment with the details of the company (thanks.)

Unrelated

After the car came back from the mechanic with its engine replaced, I gave it a quick check over.  Like nearly every garage I have ever known, the engineers only have the time to do the job required.  As usual and as expected for its age, the cable protection was missing in places and the odd bolt and clip, to stop loose things flapping about, had long since got lost or broken.

I had the bonnet up all day Saturday and between other jobs I wrapped exposed parts of the wiring loom with black tape and replaced missing and broken cable clips with nylon cable ties.



As you can see from the photo, I learnt a useful lesson.  If you want to be able to finish a job don't leave a comfy spot for a Cat to sleep.

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Reference:
http://www.discovery2.co.uk/tyresize.html
http://forum.landrovernet.com/showthread.php/177298-Discovery-2-Std-Tyres
http://www.landyzone.co.uk/lz/f8/wheel-tyre-sizes-201153.html
http://www.wheel-size.com/size/land-rover/discovery-2/2003/

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